Why the truth really does matter

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It’s a strange thing that when Nase uses the internet to attack people in the most personal and vicious way, it's OK because he says they deserve it; but if anyone tries to defend themselves, they're just being nasty to him.

For the record, we have never attacked members of the Nase family. On one occasion, we pointed out the inconsistencies between his descriptions of a very close and loving family and his claims that they have, in effect, virtually ostracised him. No, our problem is not with Geoffrey Nase’s family, and it never has been. Our complaints are solely and completely about his LIES.

This isn't a hate site, it's a truth site. Unfortunately, for some people, the truth is hateful. It is something to be denied, mocked, hidden, sealed away, and God help anyone who wants to open the windows and let in the daylight.

Several of Nase’s staunchest supporters have said they wouldn't care if he was a madman or a murderer, as long as he can tell them when someone comes up with a cure for rosacea. They don’t seem to understand that a pathological liar is hardly likely to tell us the truth about anything, and that includes the chances of finding a cure. So, yes, honesty does matter.

Nase makes up stories about everything, and can somehow always produce an email to back it up. We've seen this, from his credentials, many of which are “bold-faced lies”, through to what he tries to present as his own research, its conclusions and the impact it might have on rosaceans. He appears to be living in a fantasy world.

In theory, Nase knew he would have to produce evidence to back his court case. In fact, he seems to have thought he could roll up to the courthouse and be awarded the million dollars plus demanded in letters from his lawyer, and he somehow thought he could get this just by bluffing. It was never going to happen.

Why does any of this matter? Because when someone sets himself up as a medical and scientific expert, dispensing advice to all comers, honesty and trust are crucial. How can anyone think it's acceptable to take referrals for money without disclosing it? If you can't trust someone with money, then you most definitely don’t trust them for anything at all, and especially not medical stuff.

Why Write About the Health Crises?

We’ve been criticised for writing about Nase’s health. There are plenty of hypochondriacs around, so does any of that stuff really matter? The question misses a crucial point. Although health records are normally strictly private, the Superior Court judge ordered full medical disclosure because Nase had chosen to bring his health matters into the public eye, through dozens of posts to the rosacea boards, and because his health is at the very heart of this dispute.

Don’t forget that the RRF split began when the other directors challenged Nase over the last of his bizarre ‘death-bed’ phone calls as he lurched from one major crisis to the next. This had been going on for five weeks, with his friends unsure whether he could pull through and cheat death one more time, or would die on the operating table within the next few hours.

How would you feel if a friend or relation did that to you, week after week after week? Just try to imagine it, with your nerves stretched as tight as piano wires.

All of the resulting battles and arguments stem from Nase’s fury at being asked, after five weeks of this, to say which hospital he was in, or to put a nurse on the phone for a quick chat, or to name a single member of any one of the many surgeons who had performed at least seven desperately risky operations on him. Yet Nase would not permit any of these doctors to be named and take credit for their superb skills in saving his life.

No, he was furious. He told his three co-directors that he would destroy their reputations, and he would take the RRF and “tear it limb from limb”. That is why the RRF was split apart. Everything comes down to those days.

How It Was

What is most stunning is the sheer cruelty of it all: to think that someone sitting at home in the early hours of the morning might pick up the phone and call a close friend, waking him or her from sleep, and deliberately set off yet another wave of fear and anxiety for the whole group.

The core leadership team of the RRF numbered up to seven, so news of Nase’s latest crisis would be passed around by email or by phone later that day. Here are email extracts from just one of the crises:

“He phoned in the middle of the night saying good chance of dying during bowel repair surgery.”
“He was finding it really hard to talk. I asked him where he was and he just did not know. He said somewhere in Chicago. He is so scared he will die during the operation.”
“The list of things that Geoffrey has had to cope with these last couple of years is more than any of us can imagine. I am on my knees praying that Geoffrey's time is not up ...”

Can you imagine the emotional turmoil, the desperation, then elation, and back to anguish again as the next crisis hit? After one such operation, another member of the leadership group wrote:

“Words cannot express my joy and relief right now. Geoffrey is amazing! I can't wait to hear his voice again soon.....something I was desperately afraid might never happen again.... A miracle has truly happened here.”

On April 25, Nase emailed the group and said the surgeons were going to operate again to remove the rest of the brain tumor. Although he later told the rosacea boards that his tumor had been encapsulated, so was easy to lift out, in April he said the remaining 40% of the tumor would be extremely difficult to remove and he had only a 1% chance of surviving the operation.

Very Early One Morning

While waiting to go back into the operating theatre, Nase felt the need to talk. He phoned one of his co-directors, who wrote down a careful note of the whole, long agonizing conversation the next day, fearing that their good friend was dying, and that this would probably be his last message to them all. Here is just a part of it:

The doctors had told Geoffrey that his systems were shutting down and he would not last through the night. He would take the chance and also he agreed to be part of a research study that would help others. His speech was slow and there were many long pauses before he was able to speak more.

Geoffrey said “Yes” when I asked him if he accepted God into his heart. I told him he is not alone and God is right there with him and I would stay on the phone and be with him, too. He said “deal”. Geoffrey began to breathe loud and quickly, then seemed to hold his breath briefly.

After the episode he was able to talk again. I asked him to call the nurse, but he said he couldn't see well and could not find the button. He became scared and called out “help”, but his door was closed, and no one came.

Geoffrey then had another breathing/gasping episode and after this one he could not hear me but I could hear him. I was crying and yelling out on the phone “Geoffrey”, but he did not hear. I heard him say “I can't hear you. I can't do this alone” and we were cut off.

Somehow, he managed to call me back. I said I was there when he couldn't hear and if it happened again I would stay on the phone and talk and concentrate on him and be there with him just as God would be. I was afraid and full of anguish and desperate sorrow.

He said he was feeling peaceful and sounded surprised when he said “this isn't so bad”. He said he kept feeling “lucid” and I think began to realize he might be afraid. He said he had to fight and “keep breathing” and he “refused to leave the earth”.

He said he wanted to live and wanted the surgeons to save him and he would tell them that when they came in. Then he said “they are here”. We agreed he would remind them that he wanted them to try and save him and that God would help guide them through the operation.

Just How Sick Is Too Sick?

How can someone lie about cancer and fake all the details of heart attacks and seizures and retain any credibility? Nase should not be allowed to advise patients or have any place in the health field. The fact that he lied about his own health AND his credentials AND his contract impacts directly on the advice he gives to people with rosacea. It calls it ALL into question. For example, what does it say about the way he often downplays possibly harmful side-effects of some treatments?

How can an internet group that has any regard for the safety of its members allow them to be advised by someone who has repeatedly shown a well-documented and obsessive need to act out bizarre medical dramas? Where is their moral compass? How can they think it's insignificant if someone fakes terrible illness to wring the hearts of group members, and lies to attack anyone who challenges him, and lies about referrals for money? Is it just OK if Geoffrey Nase does it?

That’s the question we would like answered