Yet Another Collaboration Fails: Nase Bites Texas Dust

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Geoffrey Nase’s latest work-from-home enterprise as a “phone consultant” for the rosacea side of Dr. David Nielson’s ETS clinic has been terminated after just 18 months. Neither party is offering any explanations, but lavish praise for the ETS surgeon disappeared from Nase’s web site on April 30th and staff at Nielson’s Rosacea Treatment Institute of Texas no longer reassure patients that they still have every faith in Nase.


The cancelling of their annual contract only six months after it was renewed appeared to take Nase by surprise. Just days before, he had written about redeveloping his site to host new sections on RTIT developments. Yet Nase has always drawn in new readers by promising that he was about to post large amounts of “cutting-edge” medical and scientific information. In reality, his site has little to offer, compared with the vast quantity of unbiased information freely available elsewhere for rosaceans.


The Quarterly Reports Nase has said were imminent since 2001 and the “super-board” he was about to launch in 2005, which he claimed had more than 8,000 signed-up members and a vast number of medical specialists in attendance, never came to fruition. Eighteen months ago the planned board had supposedly reached its “43rd version”, yet it is still nowhere to be seen.


On April 30th, Nase was again banging the drum about how he would collect and display the latest information from top people, as well as hosting “a list of Rosacea Physicians, Rosacea Specialists and Experts in Rosacea Treatment across the United States”. There was no mention of the pay for being listed as a Nase-approved expert, although it is known that the first had paid him $6,000 per month (see Oregon Rosacea Institute Contract). Surprisingly, there was also no mention of Nielson, the last man crowned by Nase as a great “rosacea expert” and “Rosacea Treatment Specialist”.


Instead, Nase revealed that he had accepted a job in Indianapolis, where he would use lasers and other treatment modalities to treat rosacea sufferers in person. “This was”, he wrote, “the logical next step in my career and a very exciting opportunity. I will be posting updates when my training is finished and I am in the saddle.” The new slogan was ‘Rosacea Treatment Center of Indiana: Aiming for the Heart of Rosacea’.


In his September 2005 deposition, Nase had pointed out how little training was required to use lasers:

Aestheticians can do this. I mean, it’s in day spas now. I mean, they don’t need doctors for many of these -- type-four lasers they are called, with no downtime, and that’s the difference.

They actually usually start out with either a 20-minute - 60-minute training session, and sometimes that’s all you need. Sometimes that’s all doctors’ clinics get that have never used it before. Sometimes they just get a booklet. It’s scary.

pp. 158 & 160

http://www.debunkingnase.org/images/6/6c/GeoffreyNaseDeposition_Original.pdf


Despite Nase’s attempt to finesse yet another career set-back as a major triumph and the result of careful planning, Forum members tore into him.

Nase has been dumped by the RTIT. According to his website, he has accepted a position in Indianapolis as a laser technician to treat Rosacea. He said this was the next logical step in his career. Which way, down, backwards?

http://www.rosaceagroup.org/The_Rosacea_Forum/showthread.php?t=14990


As soon as the ‘laser tech’ taunt appeared, Nase reworded his statement to read:

This was the logical next step for my career and a very exciting opportunity as it is a partnership agreement with two fellow Dermatologists from Medical Academia and it allows me to utilize multiple treatment modalities in a truly collaborative effort to address all 5 rosacea subtypes and symptoms.

Medical Academia was where I started my career and through my travels and learning experiences, it has always been the place best suited for my training due to the technology, collaboration, sharing of information, cultivating relationships within multiple medical disciplines, and the resultant grants and publications.


That was quickly changed to “it is a partnership with two Dermatologists from Medical Academia” in response to this stingingly accurate retort:

‘fellow dermatologists’ implies he’s a derm for pete’s sake. “Medical Academia was where I started my career” but through bad choices and discreditable behavior I find myself downgraded to a laser tech. C’est la vie!


If Nase does manage to find work in a laser clinic or spa, even if it is under the supervision of a dermatologist or two, it would be dishonest to present that as “working in medical academia”. Yet Nase has consistently attempted to convince people that he is still employed in a university medical school or medical research laboratory.


Despite Nase’s home page having been updated as recently as May 1st 2008, it still prominently features the following astounding claim:

He performs biomedical and clinical research at a major Medical University in the United States. He is funded by the American Heart Association and National Institutes of Health to study blood vessel pathology in human disease.


Prospective clients reading his site have no idea that Nase has been gone from Indiana University for nearly four years, or that they are making major health decisions based on false or unreliable information.



Note added April 19, 2009

As previously stated, we do not initiate contact with people Nase has declared a business association with, but we do welcome comments, especially if they help us keep our site honest and relevant. For example, we do publish clarifications. Having reported speculation on the rosacea boards over the ending of Nase's links with the RTIT, it is only fair to report now that Nase has publicly stated (at the Topix board) that he chose to terminate the contract over concern that a junior technician might perform laser treatments. We relay this without comment, having no knowledge of the events concerned.